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‘If it goes away, is that going to be good?’ Fred {Couples} on LIV and its future

Fred {Couples} final month on the Boeing Basic.

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Fred {Couples}, one of many extra vocal critics of LIV Golf, says he’s not sure what the league’s still-to-be-determined future may imply for professional golf. 

In an interview this week on CNBC’s Closing Bell — which you possibly can watch right here — the favored professional and 1992 Masters winner additionally defined why he’s attacked the Saudi-backed tour over the previous yr. However {Couples} additionally questioned about LIV, in gentle of a not too long ago proposed coming collectively between its backer, Saudi Arabia’s Public Funding Fund, and the PGA Tour. 

Would LIV stay, following a year-plus struggle with the Tour? That’s nonetheless to be determined, not less than publicly. An settlement between the edges says solely “a full and goal empirical data-driven analysis of LIV and its prospects and potential” could be undertaken, and within the time for the reason that proposal was introduced, Tour officers have principally caught to that line. However ought to LIV fold, there’s additionally the query of its gamers, a lot of whom left the Tour for giant, assured contracts and had been subsequently punished by their former collection for exiting.

There, the settlement says “PIF, the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour will work cooperatively and in good religion to ascertain a good and goal course of for any gamers who want to re-apply for membership with the PGA Tour or the DP World Tour following the completion of the 2023 season,” and Tour officers have additionally been mum on what that course of may appear like. {Couples}, although, is curious. 

For readability, right here is the change he had with host Scott Wapner. 

“Do you hope it [the proposed agreement] doesn’t occur?” Wapner requested. 

“I by no means thought it [LIV Golf] would occur,” {Couples} stated. “I by no means thought they might get off the bottom, however I assume when you may have — I’m not even good sufficient to determine what number of billions — you may get individuals to observe the cash. I don’t know if it’s going to go away. Once more, Scott, that’s one other nice query. 

“I’m so previous that I don’t — I take note of each golfer that performs on the PGA Tour, but when it goes away, is that going to be good? I don’t know if that’s going to be good or not. Can we intertwine? I’m not good sufficient to determine that out. I’m certain they’ll try to do one thing.”

At this level within the CNBC interview, {Couples} famous Brooks Koepka, a LIV participant who’s taking part in subsequent week within the Ryder Cup, the place {Couples} will probably be a vice-captain. 

“However we do have Brooks Koepka on the Ryder Cup group — he’s not likely a PGA Tour participant and each participant on that group wished him, so we nonetheless have some good emotions concerning the LIV guys,” {Couples} stated on CNBC. “However would I need to see it go away? It doesn’t matter to me actually anymore if — their tour is ready, they’ve their 48 guys, I don’t suppose any new guys have joined in 5 – 6 months, so it’s what it’s.”   

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The CNBC feedback observe a flurry of ideas from {Couples} on LIV.

There have been his ideas final June to GOLF’s Alan Bastable, with a headline entitled “‘I’m achieved with it:’ Fred {Couples} dismisses LIV Golf, Phil Mickelson.” A couple of month later, there was extra from {Couples}, with GOLF’s headline on these feedback studying “‘I’m glad they’re gone’: Fred {Couples}’ newest LIV roast targets Tour critics, Greg Norman.” And a few month later, there was extra nonetheless, with this GOLF headline saying, “Fred {Couples}’ LIV assault continues with thought on … birthdays and weddings.”  

However why the barrage in any respect? 

Over the previous yr, {Couples} has defined that, and on Closing Bell, {Couples} defined once more, although right here he was reflective. For readability once more, right here is the whole change, began by Wapner.  

“I don’t suppose it’s information to anyone you’ve been one of the crucial common gamers on tour for an awfully very long time, effectively earlier than you even received the Masters in ’92. So whenever you converse, individuals hearken to what it’s a must to say, and also you’ve been one of the crucial outspoken gamers, I believe, concerning the LIV tour and the way forward for that relationship with the PGA Tour. I’m questioning: What was your first response whenever you heard of this potential deal between LIV and the PGA Tour?”

“You realize, what a query,” {Couples} began. “And I’ve answered it the identical each single time. It impacts the PGA Tour immensely. However actually what affected me is how these guys leaving — not all of them; a few of them; I shouldn’t even say 5 of them — had been speaking concerning the PGA Tour, how unhealthy of a tour it was, how unsuitable it was, how they’re higher off taking part in within the LIV tour. I’ve spent — that is my forty third yr on the PGA Tour. I symbolize it the very best I can. I’ve performed a very long time. The Champions Tour, Scott, as , is nice. 

“But it surely simply offended me that — go play your golf, go play in your 54-hole occasions — everyone knows that’s humorous to speak about. And typically I felt unhealthy about what I stated. However once I talked to different individuals, I actually don’t suppose I stated something horrific — I simply reacted to what a number of the guys that left stated. Brooks Koepka, Dustin Johnson — I don’t discuss to Dustin that a lot, however Brooks, I’ve stored in contact since this Ryder Cup factor, [and] we snort each different day about stuff. And I’ve no qualms with 99 p.c of the fellows. It impacts the Tour. I’m now not on that tour, however what affected me is simply the issues they needed to say.”

Editor’s notice: To observe the whole Closing Bell interview with Fred {Couples}, please click on right here.  

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